This page celebrates
the fifth anniversary of the BI Men Network.
Messages from well wishers, news from "Mac" the founder of
BI Men Network,
and a look at the future. Over our anniversary weekend additions
will be made here as well as on the BI Men Network website.
So check back often and join in our celebration!
Message June, 2005
Message February, 2004
BI Guy Dilemma
Article about The BI Men Network
From Eros Online Magazine
from Mark Hogan
from Dr. FRITZ KLEIN
BI Guy Blues
from BI Net Houston
to come.....Check Back!!!!
"We Are Reaching For the Stars!"
Fellow Members & Our Friends Worldwide:
As you may know we have recently embarked on a very ambitious program
to expand the reach and service of the Bi MEN NETWORK and our new Bi
& GAY MEN NETWORK. The first years were devoted - as they should
have been - to our core audience - bisexual and bi-curious men here
in North America. We have done that - and are now by far the largest
grouping of bisexuals on earth today with over 1/4 million active adult
male members. In recent years more and more gay men - either gay men
who were once bisexual - or gay men who just like us - enjoy our company
- or are just "regular" gay guys not really "into"
or in the gay "mainstream" have chosen to join us! They are
most welcome here!
NOW - we are expanding both globally and more deeply into the bisexual,
gay and "metrosexual" arenas.
Please note we now have new shared interest groups (as shared sports
interests), special interest groups, and our affinity groups. We strongly
urge those with such interests to peruse these on the Bi MEN NETWORK
home page at www.bimen.org
and we direct your immediate attention to our
new affinity groups:
MEN OF COLORBi
MEN DOWN LOW
HOMBRES HACER CONTACTOS
you are a member of such communities please join there, or IF you have
a keen interest in such men join there.
Globally we are now in almost every nation that is a member of the UNITED
NATIONS and you can now click on a continent or region and check them
out. If you have an interest in or travel to certain nations please
do go join those groups. If you are, for example, a Polish-American
join us at Bi MEN POLAND and make some friends with bi and gay men in
Warsaw or Danzig or Cracow! If you are working on your French or Spanish
or such join some national groups with those languages and make some
new friends and polish your verbal skills! All our groups do have English
as the principal language in that increasingly English is the primary
tongue on the Internet today as it is with air traffic control for global
Few of us realize how REPRESSED human sexuality still is in much of
the world. Five nations still have laws that state homosexual acts are
punishable by death. Alternatively it is puzzling that the laws for
sexual freedom are now most open in: Ecuador, Fiji, Portugal and South
Africa - not the USA, Canada, Denmark, Sweden or France as one might
otherwise think. Our application for membership in the ILGA has been
pending in Brussels for some time now - as bisexuals are scarcely represented
in any major global or North American GLBT organizations at all. Strange
as it seems to me trannies are now better represented and heard in the
national and global organizations than we are.
MEN - just imagine how much trouble you have faced coming out and accepting
your own bisexuality or your own homosexuality in the United States,
or in Canada or in any other "first world" nation! Then imagine
what it is like for other such men in 2nd world and 3rd world nations.
Our new global outreach is important for them all. Many live in countries
where Internet access is their ONLY OUTLET and ONLY SUPPORT to know:
"You are NOT alone!"
SO - please help with this global outreach. As Oscar Wilde said: "We
may be lying in the gutter, but our eyes are fixed upon the stars!"
YES, for now our grasp does not match our global reach - but we are
doing our best. Won't you help me "MAC" with your fiver, or
your sawbuck or other contribution to help us go and grow and to do
IF SO - please go now to: http://www.bimen.org/contributionpage.htm
- use Pay Pal or mail it in directly to me!
ENJOY THE HOLIDAY & LONG HOT SUMMER!
Big Hugs and Best Wishes,
Stewart (Mac) McCloud Founder/President
Bi MEN NETWORK - www.bimen.org
Now over 1/4 million active men with us today!
The Bi MEN NETWORK & our brother Bi &
GAY MEN NETWORK
Team Up for an OUTREACH TO MEN WORLDWIDE:
on a Region for its New Directory
5th Birthday or 5th Anniversary!
HOW IT ALL BEGAN at the BI MEN:
week is the FIFTH ANNIVERSARY or FIFTH BIRTHDAY of our BI Men Network
which was founded in February of 1999 at that time on the old ONElist
as BI Men USA.
At that time - the "love affair" with the original newsgroups
was at its end due to spamming and flaming and over-dominant personalities
who often sought to control or run such groups.
The next stage of such open discussion groups were the emailing lists
such as ONElist, Topica, and Egroups (since bought out by Yahoo).
These were more popular as they also allowed you to remain relatively
anonymous and were lively - but could be moderated and many were well-managed
(as the BI Men Network today).
So in the Winter of 1999 about 100 bisexual married and divorced men
gathered to launch our BI MEN NETWORK headed by me ("MAC")
and a few others. Sadly five years later only a few of the BI Men Founders
are still actively
with us. A few dozen may be lurking in the shadows today - but only
a few remain active. That is why I am happy to welcome the five year
overview comments of MARK HOGAN - one of our two top writers here -
which will be
included on our FOUNDERS PAGE at the website at: http://www.bimen.org/founders.htm
By June 1999 our 100 hardy BI souls had grown like wildfire to over
5,000 and it had quickly turned into a full-time - round-the-clock job
for me ("MAC" the Moderator/Founder).
To survive we established LIFETIME MEMBERSHIPS at $99.00 each and many
generously paid for such - and even bought them for BI MEN friends and
buddies who were either broke - or whose wives would have gone ballistic
or both! We were also helped to finish that first year by Dr. Fritz
Klein and his AIB (BI Foundation) which gave the BI Men Network a $5,000
grant to continue.
By the end of that year we had moved to Egroups who PAID us to leave
ONElist who then ended up merging with Egroups. By 2000 we enjoyed the
first of several years funding by the AIB (Bisexual Foundation) which
kept us modestly afloat a few years. That funding was not renewed for
2004 - so now we are ONCE AGAIN as in 1999 cast adrift amongst the world's
mighty seven seas.
BI MEN NETWORK on our own today!
remains a year of CRISIS for the BI MEN NETWORK - but as the Chinese
sagely note a CRISIS is often a dangerous OPPORTUNITY.
The BI MEN NETWORK _ TODAY now numbers over 1/4 million souls - mostly
male and mostly BI See results of our recent paid demographic study
- viewed at:
We now are on every CONTINENT save Antarctica - but BI MEN PENGUINS
is opening soon on the Ross Ice Shelf - in sizable numbers. We are recruiting
paid staff for: 1) South Asia; 2) South America; and South Africa at
this time. The non-USA BI Men Chapters are at this time the fastest
growing. We have a French Language and a Spanish Language Chapter. We
will soon have a BI Men Chapter for every sizable nation on earth. Sorry
NO BI Men Monaco.
IF you speak another LANGUAGE than English and would like to help please
email me - MAC the Moderator/Founder here.
IF you would like to FOUND a BI MEN Chapter for a FAVORED NATION contact
me - and see further details below.
Nonetheless we now have 1/4 million active members worldwide. We are
by far the largest organization of bisexuals on earth today. The next
closest BI grouping has men and women both. We are also one of the largest
GLBT associations on earth and one of the few large ones that is a TRULY
cohesive NETWORK and that is TRULY worldwide in its actual scope.
Now adrift on the open seas we have been blessed with the help and guidance
of a truly outstanding man and amazing soul. LEN ROGERS - Founder of
the StoneWall Society. LEN is now blessing us with his MANY YEARS of
public relations and sales and marketing experience in the GLBT sector.
Look for some truly amazing developments in the year(s) ahead if things
happily develop as it appears they will SLOWLY do so with time and lots
of very hard work by LEN and MAC.
is BI MEN NETWORK important?
are a very fluid lot - and tend to come and go - and their self-identity
can change again and again. The BI Men Network was meant to be - and
is a safe harbor and a haven from the storm for all bisexual and BI-curious
men. Many members come and go here all the time. That is a main reason
our groups are largely open so that our men can come and go freely as
Many members are just BI-curious and never actually have same-sex with
other men. Many had such sex as kids or teenagers and remain BI curious
their entire lives. Many enjoy BI and gay porn but DO NOTHING in real
life sexually about such prurient interests.
Many men go through a "straight" phase - then a BI phase -
and then as perhaps the new Episcopal Bishop of New Hampshire settle
into a "gay" phase later in life. SO for many people bisexuality
is a bridge and not a destination. Frankly we would like to see BISEXUALITY
as a destination and a happy one - not one of last resort!
Bisexuals LIKE our other main sexual MINORITIES - gays, lesbians and
the "T's" would not for the most part CHOOSE to be as we are.
It just happened and that is it. Even with some of its fun and its benefits
(as Woody Allen jokes - "Bisexuality doubles your chances for a
hot Saturday night date for the rest of your life!") - most bisexuals
would rather be or remain heterosexual.
SO our BI MEN members come to our NETWORK mostly out of fear, worry
and anxiety and also out of loneliness and a search for some warm companionship.
Our motto since 1999 has been and is:
"YOU ARE NOT ALONE!" and this has been met now with our 250,000+
members and 100+ BI MEN Chapters worldwide.
We provide that safe harbor and haven from the storm for our membership.
We strive to EDUCATE our membership and
keep them informed on matters of interest and concern to bisexual and
gay males. We are a social and support organization - thus we avoid
POLITICS and RELIGION both.
A main goal here is to help our BI men to accept and to love themselves.
AND keep them safe from harm - whether it be AIDS, std's, police arrests,
muggings or blackmail. We want to help them to BE HAPPY and STAY HAPPY
and to help share that greater peace, serenity and acceptance with their
own families, friends and colleagues.
IF you have not recently reviewed our MISSION STATEMENT - please
do so - go to:
There you will note that one of our main objectives is to help BI men
meet other BI men or meet gay men that are BI-friendly That is why we
have NO PERSONALS paid systems here. We have free member Introductions
day in and day out and our free CENTRAL TRAVEL DESK to help our members
meet new friends here.
We will also continue to have our Annual BI Men Getaway Weekend and
Conference (Summer 2004 in New Orleans) and MAC will be going on the
road across the USA later this year. Watch for NEWS on this here. MAC
will be hosting support groups; hosting no-host cash bars, luncheons
and dinners; leading seminars and moderating discussion panels; and
meeting the membership one on one across the USA in 2004 (as has been
the case in Southern California for many years).
BUT more HELP and more SUPPORT is needed at our BI MEN NETWORK!
SO = CAN YOU HELP & Why Not?
Membership Drives: our strength is in our numbers and in going and growing.
You can take a few extra minutes every time you are surfing the NET
to tell other bisexual, BI-curious and gay men about us.
POST MESSAGES as:
FOR A GOOD TIME - check out the free BI MEN NETWORK
IF half of you did that once a week we would double
in a year's time - easily!
2. Spread the word to BI and gay men you meet in person. Just tell them
about us and tell them to go to: www.bimen.org
3. Are you in sales or marketing or do you know VIP's in sales and marketing?
Tell them about BISEXUALS - we are the last major niche in niche
marketing - the BI Men are the BIG B in any, all GLBT marketing.
4. Volunteer to HELP MAC - with Membership Drives - or a MODERATOR for
a BI Men Chapter - or use any foreign language skills and abilities
for us worldwide - or start a support group in your area with Mac. Help
MAC on his Road Trip to your area!
5. Fund a FAVORED NATION Chapter around the World! Donate $20
or $50 or $100 for the NATION(s) of your choice! Be such a Chapter Cofounder
6. Donate money $5, $10, $20 or more to the BI MEN NETWORK. Use a credit
card - or cash or your checking account. GO TO:
- send the money
to the BI MEN NETWORK - c/o MAC at: firstname.lastname@example.org
7. Send a donation - by mail - email MAC for details at: email@example.com
HELP IS NEEDED. Now essentially MAC and LEN are keeping this going with
a few moderators and seven cash donations this year! 2004 is a
YEAR OF CRISIS here at the BI Men and we need your help. We will
make it but why not feel good about YOURSELF and lend a helping hand
to US and your brothers here? Help US feel that we are NOT ALONE!
THANK YOU ALL! Happy 5th Anniversary!
EMAIL FOR MAC: firstname.lastname@example.org
Big Hugs & Best Wishes,
Stewart ("Mac") McCloud
Founder & President
BI MEN NETWORK
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BI Guy Dilemma
a bisexual male is not as easy as one would think. You're shunned by
the gay community for not "coming out" all the way, and you're
stigmatized by the hetero community because, well, sometimes you like
dick. Just what is a guy supposed to do when his sexual appetites lead
him down both the paths of pussy and penis?
Never fear. First off, you have to feel comfortable in your own skin.
Second, if you like to taste both forbidden fruits, then by all means
sate those appetites. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you or
your desires. Third, don't feel badly, and never allow the hang-ups
of others to inhibit you from having a healthy, satisfying sex life.
There is a social group that will support you, as well. It's called
BI Men Network and can be found on the web at www.bimen.org. Their credo
is simple: "The BI Men Network is a free worldwide social and support
organization for bisexual men, BI-curious males, gay men, and BI couples.
We have more than 200,000 members and we are completely free. We provide
resources, information, pictures/videos, events, and Personals for our
membership. We are now the largest association for bisexuals on earth
So it seems there is support for those who swing the sexual vine both
It's understood that bisexuals and bisexuality are the last "pariahs"
and "lepers" in modern society, feeling shunned by the Gay,
Lesbian and hetero communities. One thing that might now accentuate
the gay community's distrust of bisexuals is the marriage controversy
currently under debate in legal halls and private homes. "Bi's
can still get married."
In late 1998, the founder of the BI Men Network, Mac McCloud, accessed
the Internet at a public library. He says he immediately realized that
"the Internet was a Godsend for bisexuals." He saw there was
a need and a niche to be filled, and set about to do it. As he says,
"The bisexual and BI-curious men - who are the most shunned sexual
minority group on earth today in almost all societies - had not yet
discovered the many benefits of the (Internet) for bisexuals. No dues;
no meetings; no going to churches or GLBT centers or gay bars or such;
no explaining to your wife, family or coworkers where you've been; ability
to use a 'handle' or remain anonymous; chat, rap, and discuss common
issues online in chat rooms and discussion groups - free - at all hours!"
That was his goal, and in order to accomplish those lofty heights, Mac
launched his first umbrella network, BI-MEN-USA online. The first 100
men who thought they were all alone in their desires and proclivities
found the site and felt relief. The motto was and is: "You are
Within a matter of months, the network had 5,000+ members. Indeed, by
the end of the first year, they boasted over 20,000 members. Now in
2004, they proudly have over 250,000 active males worldwide as members
of their network. The BI Men Network is a free social and support organization.
You can check out some of their demographic study results on their site.
Site owner Mac McCloud tells us that an outside evaluation last year
showed the site to be in the top quintile of websites visited on earth
The ideas behind the movement are simple and clear: 1) bisexuals need
other bisexuals for social and support reasons; 2) bisexual men must
learn to practice safe-sex and to be private and discreet; 3) while
bisexuals do not want to be open and out as gays and lesbians do - we
do need to make the world aware that as many as 20 percent of adults
are practicing bisexuals.
With 20 percent of the population in the same boat as you, you definitely
know you've got some company.
by Alexia O'Neil
Eros Online Magazine
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Special World We Share
is a special opportunity to discuss this one thing that we all have
in common ; our bisexuality!! We cover every demographic that you can
think of --race; religion; financial; age; nationality--but we all have
that abiding need--no it's a craving--for physical relationships with
other men and all the good stuff that goes with that. You would think that fact would make it easier as it proves
that we are not some obscene result of an oppressive mother; or abuse
by some male role model (fire fighter; cop; or construction worker--mores
the pity). There have been plenty of societies in the past (Greek Athletes;
Roman Centurions; Japanese Samurai) where man-to-man intimacy had zero
stigma and was even seen as productive to their group. Few of them thought
that they were Gay or in any other way different. Physical relationships
with other men were so natural that many of those groups didn't even
have a specific name for it. I don't believe that this is the place
to debate what society has made of our sexuality, or even hope that
some day things will be different--not in my lifetime buddy.
have changed a lot though since I was single and had a glorious string
of M2M encounters in college. The late 70's were a time of liberation
and exploration with none of the life threatening health risks that
loom today. Sure we worried about getting the clap--but Death--no way
was that in our thoughts. God I relive those adventures when I was as
prolific with other men as I was with women. I had multiple partners
in a month on a scale that is unheard of today. Multiple sex with both
sexes and groups ; God I think that I was a slut of the first order
and what 18 or 19 year old shouldn't be. I was a good looking tall,
thin kid with a record as a Track Jock ; great shoulder length hair
and a good personality. More than anything I was so wonderstruck by
the glory of the pleasure that the human body ; no matter what genitalia
hung off it ; could give. In the midst of all that indulgence I was
blessed to meet this sane, wonderful woman who gave me greater pleasure
(and 2 wonderful kids) than all the rest ; it is amazing what an aphrodisiac
love is and how it can endure over the decades. I have kept the bisexual
side of myself sane by having that prolific bag of memories and the
very occasional encounter with some special guy and never (thank the
stars) have I ever taken that step with a guy that the risks weren't
Stewart MacCloud has said, the BI Men Network is now five years old.
It must have been destiny that after many years that was the exact same
time that my inner most sexual drives told me that I needed to explore
this side of me again ; and discovered the Web. I have no idea of what
life would have existed for that 19 year old horny slut if I had been
able to gain electronic access to the vast multitude of men that are
now willing to admit to their desires. It is probably better this way,
as I have always had to admit to myself that M2M sex has a power and
monumental energizing "logic sapping"quality to it that M2W
sex can never have. The kiss of an aggressive mustached mouth is so
much more carnal than the sweet soft lips of a woman; the abrasion of
a hairy chest against your erect nipples so much more animal like than
soft pliant breasts; the heat of an engorged cock sliding past your
lips so much more awesome than the warmth and wetness of a pussy. I
have tasted and enjoyed both many times ; I can like anchovies and ice
cream equally - but when my tastebuds need a electrifying jolt of LIFE
then give me the dominant sensation of a salty anchovy.
the BI Network has always told us "You are not alone"and that
is what it is all about isn't it guys?? When we all realized this about
ourselves didn't we feel unique ; and unfairly burdened as well? I don't
think that I ever met a BI guy that didn't tell me that he would have
preferred to have been Hetero ; I went through that self critical phase
as well but at the end of it I realized that I am what life and the
great comedian in the sky made me. I sure never sat down one day and
said ; hey what I hoot, I'm gonna get off by sucking cock!!! No amount
of feeling shitty ever stopped my mind (and my balls where I believe
that my mind dwells) from having this interest in other men. Nearly
all BI guys also tell me that their biggest motivation is to have a
close and caring buddy that they can fish with and go to the football
; oh, and yeah, to suck their cocks while slipping a finger up their
butt. Well, I think that is bullshit ; or at the least it's wishful
thinking. I have heaps of male friends that I care a lot for and enjoy
the physical intimacy of a hug or a kiss on the cheek ; I doubt that
drive extends to rimming them. I believe that is a motivation designed
to make us feel better about ourselves as bisexuals ; that we could
be M2M monogamous given the chance. I truly believe that there are bisexual
male couples out there that are monogamous but I also believe that they
have the same craving as us to be out there sampling the new flavor.
Men are closer to the hunting pack mentality than women and we will
always want to experience that new thickness and length.
the BI Network offers us something that life doesn't generally present
us with ; an outlet where we can share the thoughts; worries; and needs
that we can't share with our buddies. It represents contact with likewise
guys that could easily be sitting beside us at work; in the gym change
room; or even in church but we would never EVER be in the position of
confidence to say "Hey, by any chance do you like to get it on
with men???" My personal outlet has always been writing. When my
horniness gets to that stage where logic and reason and caution are
likely to be drowned in sperm backlog then I sit down and purge my rancid
imagination with spinning out some erotic male scenario. BI Network
has always supported me in getting this stuff out there and I get some
pretty amazing fan mail about what it did for guys (never too vivid
or descriptive for my tastes). Many of the guys can't credit that most
of it is always in my imagination ; even though I always admit what
is Truth and what is Tale!!! I will admit that writing my stories usually
has me dripping and erect under my desk and the best of stories will
always involve a roving hand that makes typing very slow. Stewart MacCloud
in particular has been a positive support from the earliest days.
managed to join the San Diego annual group meeting 3 years ago and that
was an amazing experience and reinforced all the positive things that
I said about the richness and diversity of the bisexual fraternity.
It also lead to my meeting up with a very special man that added some
incredible and vivid memories to my arsenal of erotica ; he was mind-blowing
and it is one of life's ironies that we never saw each other again.
what exactly am I trying to offer with my thoughts about the 5 years
of the BI Network ; mostly I suppose that it represents the very thing
that is most missing in our daily lives. A venue where we will never
be judged and always supported. Everyone there ; no matter how different
they are in civilian life ; are all bonded by a drive that no one else
; hetero or gay ; will ever understand. Namely that we love our wives
and kids; our jobs and our mortgages and painting the fence on the weekend
is still a part of what defines us ; but our motivations toward other
men are complex and even though they are largely sexual they are also
so much more. This Network should be the private domain that we all
occupy with confidence and security ; it will help each of us find our
way cause it will try to offer the different things that we seek. If
MY personal way is to purge my BI-libido in writing fantasies and contact
with the very occasional special guy then that is there for me. If YOUR
way is an anonymous one-off encounter with a guy that you clicked with
on the emails then that is there for you as well. It is important though
to not forget that it should also be a comradeship where we advise and
protect each other. Many have found their own way to strike a balance
in the lives that will benefit the new young (or not so young) guy that
has just decided to explore what he knows is in his soul. For many is will be standing quietly on the sidelines and never
taking the big step to experience the glory of their bisexual nature
; BI Network has space for them as well.
power to us guys cause if the statistics are even partly accurate there
is an army of men with differing degrees of bisexual interest ; get
that crowd together some day and the heavens will part at what takes
place. Thanks for listening.
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on the 5th Anniversary
all the men in the Network,
My congratulations on the 5th Anniversary of the BI Men's Network. This
is an extremely important Internet site for helping the many many BI
men who are in relationships but feel alone and have little support
for their orientation. They are not alone as you can see from
this wonderful site.
I think that on this anniversary a look at my sexual orientation grid
can clear up possible confusion as to where each of you fit on the continuum
of sexual orientation. The Klein Sexual Orientation Grid can be found
You can also find my two books that can be of interest to many of you
'The Bisexual Option' at: http://www.bisexual.org/bookvideo/bioption.asp
OBisexual and Gay Husbands at:
Again congratulations on the anniversary of the Network.
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Anniversary Message to the BI Men Network
from a Member Who Must Remain ANONYMOUS!
simple common sense I must remain anonymous in this message but to all
who would like to read this may I ask that you read it with an open
mind, hopefully an open wallet/credit card, and a feeling of oneness
that we all share in this ever growing BI-men community.
I have been a member for several years now and, while I had to drop
off the radar screen for a short time because of a bitter person, I
have been a continuous member for at least 4 years and I intend to do
so for some time to come. I am a married BI-white male and this
network has provided me with opportunities and possibilities that I
NEVER thought existed out there in OUR BI-men world. Most of us
don't realize how many of us are out there; no it doesn't always mean
we will meet up with a dream guy or a dream 3-some, but the fact that
it is possible through this network is extremely important to me, and
always has been. I love the numerous pics that are sent our way
(sure wish some of them were around my way!), the stories are great,
the feeling that I get that there are others who share my innermost
desires and fantasies etc., well, you just can't put a price on that.
Let's admit it guys, without this network we would not be contacting
as man y people as we thought we would, wouldn't be laughing at some
of the "nasty cartoons", wouldn't be chatting with each other
and all the other things we do only within this network.
I am not begging for money, but I have donated and I'm sure there are
a number of you who could do the same; if we all did just a little we'd
be in great shape. In any case, guys, we have a great network,
we need to keep it going (and we all need to help), and we really need
to NOT let it fall by the wayside by depending on just a handful of
people to keep it running. If you believe in keeping something
good going for some time to come, how about some help? I know
I'd be a pretty lost guy without the network and the contacts I've made.
Do you feel slightly the same also?
Thanks to all of you for reading this. A Florida BI-men-network
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